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Post by Mr. Thomas on May 12, 2014 10:51:03 GMT -5
"T'is unnatural..."
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Post by michaelgenco on May 12, 2014 19:48:13 GMT -5
C. To be honest, I don’t understand how Macbeth can follow through with being the King. If I framed someone for killing the King I think I would die of guilt. He must either be a early good actor, or must put on a mask when he talks because it must be really hard to lie. In addition, I don’t understand how Macbeth can even think of killing his best friend. I understand that Banquo finds Macbeth suspicious, but there is no reason to kill him. D. A quote that I found to be interesting is this: “Thou hast it now, King, Cawdor, Glamis, all, As the weird women promis’d, and I fear Thou played’st most foully for’t; yet it was said It should not stand in thy posterity, But that myself should be the root and father of many kings. If there cometruth from them- As upon thee, Macbeth, their speeches shine-“ (1-8) In this quote Banquo is telling us how he thinks Macbeth killed King Duncan, and he framed the guards. I think in the future this thought of Macbeth will get him killed or someone that he loved killed. Also, this quote shows that Banquo is jealous that the prophecy of Macbeth came true, while his hasn’t. I. In response to what we were saying in class, I agree that there were only two possible ideas that Ross and Macduff had. Either that they kids did the murder or that they ran away for safety. As we know, they picked they did the murder.
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Post by rozzayhill007 on May 12, 2014 19:50:36 GMT -5
G. If I were Malcolm or Donalbain I would've done the same thing to protect my life and my family's money. They were smart in fleeing, but if the others had any common sense they would realize why the two ran away, and not think that they could've committed the killing.
I. In response to what was said in class about when Macbeth was talking to Banquo, I do think that Macbeth might have a plan for getting rid of Banquo because he could foil his plans of being king for a long time. Banquo has a suspision that Macbeth killed Duncan, which would be correct, and Macbeth realizes this and starts to think about it. If Banquo tells others about what Macbeth did not only will he not be king but he could be executed. Or maybe Macbeth wants to get rid of Fleance because according to the witches he will be a king in the future.
E. I think that Macduff, while he also has a suspision of Macbeth, is kind of rude when he says he not going to the crowning. While Macbeth might have become king in a dishonest and cruel way he is still being named King which is a big deal, and should be honored by all.
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Post by idelfonsoe16 on May 12, 2014 20:42:13 GMT -5
C. Why, Macbeth? Why did he abandon Banquo just because he became king? It deeply upsets me that they used to be best friends, and now they’re about to become sworn enemies. Macbeth’s mentality has gone down deeper than a crater. He really wants nobody else to be king! “Our fears in Banquo stick deep, and in his royalty of nature reigns that which would be fear’d.” Macbeth mentions this quote as if he’s talking to a group. Who is the other people he kind of mentions in the soliloquy? I don’t really know if he’s just hallucinating other Macbeths. I. I disagree with Jackson’s E response. Macduff could already know that Macbeth wanted king more than anything, and sure doesn’t want to watch the devil himself become king! Maybe there could be something he has to do? We don’t really know, but I don’t think he’s rude. He may have some sort of suspicion, or something could be telling him mentally not to go to the coronation. E. I found it extremely weird how the horses began to eat each other, and how it was supposed to be sunny out yet it was dark outside. It really made me freak out how horses began to go crazy. Shakespeare’s plays really have some sort of “biased” outlook on human action, because since Macbeth destroyed the order of being, he simply wrecked everything. Maybe since they quoted that the horses seemed to have revolted against man, it’s almost like Macbeth, a commoner, revolting against the King, Duncan!
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Post by zaysofly on May 12, 2014 20:54:59 GMT -5
D: I think Act 3 Scene 1 was a great time for some comedic relief. The Porter was drunk and talking about how he is the gatekeeper to hell, even though he has know i sea what had just went on that night. This is the first time we have seen some comedic relief and it is used to ease up the tension in the story. I also like the way the story is using natural symbols to represent that there has been a disturbance in the order of things. Macbeth is seen throughout this scene acting very innocent and it really grinds my gears, because he reminds me of a little child who took something and is just lying to everyone. I think its pretty ironic how macbeth was worried about the kids, meanwhile they just escaped themselves. Maybe this has to do with the witches prophecy.
F: I like the lines It provokes desire, but takes away from its performance. Spoken by the Porter, he is talking about how alcohol can make you feel "In the Mood" and then when you try to get it on, it wants to stay off. A very deep meaning and also comedic paradox. I also like the lines Yet i made a shift to cast him. I like these lines because it sounds nothing like it means and it means he threw up and fell.
E: if i were macbeth i would feel terrible, but isn't it a little weird how he is acting as an actor in a play. What i mean is that he is lying to the character who are also characters. Paradox
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Post by stephanoscocoves on May 12, 2014 21:14:17 GMT -5
C. Im confused at why Banquo and Macbeth never actually confront each other for knowing what Macbeth did. If they would have maybe it would end up better for Banquo. They both know what Macbeth did, and they both know that the other person knows so they should have just not played it off like nothing happened.
F. I like how suspect Macbeth was acting when he kept asking Banquo where he was going, what time, and who he was going with. Macbeth asks as many questions as my mother when I go out for the night, maybe even more!
I. I agree with michael genco's C response. I dont understand how he can still be king. I feel like the guilt with blood on my hands would make me go crazy about it. Especially with Banquo knowing what happened.
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Post by raypark on May 12, 2014 22:13:32 GMT -5
E. Act 2 Scene 4 explains the consequences that were not taken into consideration by Macbeth and Lady Macbeth. The balance and order of nature is turning completely upside down. The old man gives a descriptioni of one backward conception, "Tis unnatural, Even like the deed that's done. On Tuesday last, Flacon tow'ring in her pride of place Was by a mousing owl hawk'd at and kill'd." Usually the hawk hunts the owl but this time it was the other way around. This shows the unbalance of nature that has been broken, the class levels has been disturbed and disrupted. Someone is someplace where they should not be, Macbeth. Macbeth was not supposed to be king, he forced it. With all this going on, I feel taht there is something bad that is going to happen to Macbeth breaking the balance.
C. There are some confusion I have in Act 3 Scene 1. Why does Macbeth need to gain the confidence of the murderers? Being the king, can't he not just ask them to kill Banquo and be done with it? Also I dont think that Macbeth is thinking this through. If the murderers do successfully kill Banquo, what if the murderers are the ones that spread the fact that Macbeth ordered his death. IF that rumor goes around then also the suspicion of Macbeth killing Duncan will follow through. What is Macbeth thinking? Is he noticing the cautions that he must take in order for him to be completely safe? How does he know who to trust and who not to trust?
I. I also agree with Eric Ildefonso. Banquo and Macbeth used to be great friends. But becoming King does not break any relationships. If anything it should enhance it. But Macbeth completely ditches Banquo leaving Banquo as his enemy. If Macbeth held onto banquo, he could have gained a huge asset. It would have a great thing for Macbeth to have his honor defendded and his innocence cleared when the time comes.
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Post by hankmichels on May 13, 2014 18:34:53 GMT -5
F. I wonder who the old man is in relation to ross? It seems like they are father and son, because ross keeps calling him “Father”. But people usually call priests or high ranking figures fathers, so I don’t know. “ha, good father, thou seest the heavens, as troubled with man’s act, threatens his bloody stage. By th’ clock ‘tis day, and yet dark knight strangles the traveling lamp. Is ‘t nights predominance or the day’s shame. That darkness does the face of earth entomb when living light shall kiss it?” this quote shows how wise the old man is and how he can read the stars or something. So maybe this guy is a priest or something.
I. I totally agree with eric on this one: I found it extremely weird how the horses began to eat each other, and how it was supposed to be sunny out yet it was dark outside. It really made me freak out how horses began to go crazy. Shakespeare’s plays really have some sort of “biased” outlook on human action, because since Macbeth destroyed the order of being, he simply wrecked everything. Maybe since they quoted that the horses seemed to have revolted against man, it’s almost like Macbeth, a commoner, revolting against the King, Duncan!
C. I wonder what will happen with banquo? He probably will be killed by macbeth, but that seems like a stretch
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Post by hessd16 on May 13, 2014 20:05:40 GMT -5
C. In the consideration with the murder of King Duncan, Macbeth mentions about his willingness to do this terrible deed in the aside on page 43 in the book, giving up his precious vows of morality and wisdom to others. If Macbeth knew that Bonquo’s sons would be the next line of kings of Scotland from the weird sisters’ prophecies in the beginning of the play, why would he go through this process and mentally destroy himself just to be a king? In other words, why Macbeth did not just stop at act one with the request of her wife’s plan?
D. Now, we see what the witches were talking about. We see the mindgames and curse they put on Macbeth. It all goes back to the first act. It’s like the witches played reverse psychology on Macbeth and Banqo.
E. Macbeth plays a huge role in these scenes. What pops out to me is what he will do to Banqo’s kids? Macbeth doesn’t want his kids to become king. So I assume that he will become a mass murderer? Im curious about what he will do. But it seems as if Macbeth regrets killing Duncan. I wonder how he will feel once he is crowned king and when he looks at “his” people.
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Post by jotirmoykundu on May 14, 2014 16:32:20 GMT -5
I. I agree with Zaysofly:” D: I think Act 3 Scene 1 was a great time for some comedic relief. The Porter was drunk and talking about how he is the gatekeeper to hell, even though he has know i sea what had just went on that night. This is the first time we have seen some comedic relief and it is used to ease up the tension in the story. I also like the way the story is using natural symbols to represent that there has been a disturbance in the order of things. Macbeth is seen throughout this scene acting very innocent and it really grinds my gears, because he reminds me of a little child who took something and is just lying to everyone. I think its pretty ironic how macbeth was worried about the kids, meanwhile they just escaped themselves. Maybe this has to do with the witches prophecy.”
C. In this section of the reading, Im curious of what will happen with Banquo? Is he going to be killed by Macbeth, t he murderers or what?
E. In this section of the reading, it was odd how the horses were eating each other, the weird weather patterns as well. Shakespeare’s plays are so weird and hard to follow, but once you do its crazy. Since Macbeth destroyed the order of being, he simply wrecked everything else that’s going on in the story. There was parallelism with the horses revolting against man and Macbeth with King Duncan.
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Post by youssefj16 on May 14, 2014 16:43:43 GMT -5
I. I agree with Michael Genco's C response. I would never be able to take the amount of guilt that Macbeth should be taking right now. If I was Macbeth, I would be going insane right now and I wouldn't be able to deal with myself anymore.
E. In the beginning of the book, Macbeth and Banquo were very close friends. Now that Macbeth became king, I feel like that all of that has changed. Macbeth has become so over driven with power and greed that he just doesn't care about Banquo anymore. I really feel bad for Banquo and I'm curious about what's going to happen to him.
C. Whatver happened to Duncan's sons. I feel like they just ran off and that's it. I they going to show up later on. Is Macbeth going to kill them?
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