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Post by Mr. Thomas on May 7, 2014 8:49:20 GMT -5
"Macbeth hath murdered sleep!"
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Post by raypark on May 7, 2014 19:44:22 GMT -5
E. In this scene, we see the true colors and personalities of the characters Lady Macbeth and Macbeth. Macbeth turns out to be very logical and good-willed(In a way) and feels guilt for his actions. Macbeth is a human being and shows feelings that a human being should. Lady Macbeth shows herself as the devil in this scene. She basically controls Macbeth to kill someone and does not feel any guilt. She even went back to Duncan's dead body, took his blood with her hand, and wiped it on the guards as witnesses. Even after doing all this she says, "My hands are of your colour, but I shame To wear a heart so white." If anything, I feel that she is the main evil in the book. Poor Macbeth has to go through the terrors and nightmares of what he did, he will never forgive himself for doing so. He almost completely ruined the entire plan by holding on to the daggers that he used to kill the guards and the king.
C. There are some questions I have left in this scene. If Lady Macbeth was worrying so much if Duncan really died, then why did she not do it herself? She made poor Macbeth make a new identity for himself because he can not accept what he had committed. I feel terrible for Macbeth. Its one thing to think of doing something and its a completely other thing to do what you thought, especially if its killing someone. Macbeth thought of killing Duncan, but it was merely a thought. And also in Scene 1, Act 2, he had to seriously motivate himself to kill the drunken and drugged king. Why did he do it anyway? Did lady Macbeth have that much manipulation, not truly loving Macbeth, and because of her selfish reasons of wanting to become Queen, she put Macbeth to the responsibility so she is completely free from blame and gets a free ticket to become Queen? Does she even love Macbeth? If I was with him, I would try to do anything to make him feel better, not kill his whole personality.
D. I really like the line, in Act 2 Scene 2, "My hands are of your colour, but I shame to wear a heart so white." I like this line because of how much power this line gives to the person that is speaking it. It is basically saying that the other person is a complete coward and that I am the better one between me and you. I won't go around saying this to people, but if I ever had to, I would love to have say this to a person to whom I dislike and I defeated.
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Post by hankmichels on May 7, 2014 20:47:35 GMT -5
I. I agree with raypark: “If Lady Macbeth was worrying so much if Duncan really died, then why did she not do it herself? She made poor Macbeth make a new identity for himself because he can not accept what he had committed. I feel terrible for Macbeth. Its one thing to think of doing something and its a completely other thing to do what you thought, especially if its killing someone. Macbeth thought of killing Duncan, but it was merely a thought. And also in Scene 1, Act 2, he had to seriously motivate himself to kill the drunken and drugged king. Why did he do it anyway? ”
However I feel that macbeth is just not a smart person. He went through with the murder because he thought: KING=GOOD
C. I wonder what the heck was going on in the kings sons room. After macbeth kills Duncan, he hear laughter for some reason. And then another son wakes up and shouts “MURDER”. Maybe its some form of symbolism that the one son ends up crazy and the other one a coward. We’ll see
F. I wonder how close Duncan and his son’s were. Im guessing that since hes a king, they don’t have much interaction. His sons probably wont be devastated by their dads death
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Post by michaelgenco on May 7, 2014 20:49:51 GMT -5
C. I don’t understand why Lady Macbeth is such a jerk to Macbeth. She keeps on telling him he is a coward, and he should be ashamed about himself. This really shows how lady Macbeth is so influential in Macbeth’s life and how evil she really is. Why is Macbeth so scared after he killed the king? He killed the King, and now he is so scared. Also, like Ray Park said, if Lady Macbeth was so worried if Duncan was dead why didn’t she kill him?
D. This quote from Macbeth really makes me think about his character:“Whence is that knocking?— How is’t with me, when every noise appals me? What hands are here! Ha, they pluck out mine eyes. Will all great Neptune’s ocean wash this blood Clean from my hand? No, this my hand will rather The multitudinous seas incarnadine, Making the green one red.” I believe that deep down inside Macbeth didn’t want to do this. In this quote it seems like guilt has already swarmed him. He says that this kill will stay with him until his death. Lady Macbeth’s response to this speech was very weird in that she says the water went under the bridge. Macbeth is afraid of what happened, and Lady Macbeth makes it seem like its nothing.
F. If I was Macbeth during this scene I would have not killed the King. The King is so nice to him, and Macbeth knows that. Even after he kills the king Macbeth is so disgusted with himself.
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Post by idelfonsoe16 on May 7, 2014 20:54:08 GMT -5
I. I.I agree with Ray’s C response question about Lady Macbeth’s anxiety. I don’t understand why she would be so obsessed with Macbeth performing the murder, so why doesn’t she herself do it? THEN, and RIGHT THEN AND THERE she loses all that “unsex me here (high pitch voice insert)” and starts to FREAK OUT. “Alack, I am afraid they have awak’d, and ‘tis not done; th’ attempt and not the deed confounds us. Hark!....” She is a huge hypocrite, or all talk and no action.
C. Why isn’t Macbeth filing a divorce? Lady Macbeth is a serious case that he should just end with a huge sword going up towards her jaw. She should be locked up in a cell about forty miles underwater with the key burned into liquid, seal the liquid in a cryogenic cylinder, launch it into space, and let it drift somewhere. Lady Macbeth is so annoying. I have never had this hatred towards a character, Lady Macbeth is just that type of person you want to punch in the face, really hard.
G. If I were Macbeth walking up to that poor excuse of a wife Lady Macbeth, my facial expression would be of pure guilt. I would just dimly stare at the daggers and constantly show a facial expression of extreme regret and guilt. I would show anger when I would speak to Lady Macbeth, especially when she talks about having a white heart. If I could change the script, I would totally impale her with one of those daggers, and see who has the white heart now.
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Post by nvanible on May 8, 2014 5:08:47 GMT -5
C. Why is it that Lady Macbeth can't seem to comprehend the feelings that Macbeth has running through his head? She was never close to the king, and she certainly didn't mind making her husband do the grunt work, so why is she so adamant on him getting over what he had just done? She never experienced anything that he felt, and all this does is make her an unbearable character. Why doesn't she at least try to understand why Macbeth is taking his act of murder so seriously?
G. If I was in Macbeth's shoes,I would have explained to my wife what had I felt during that moment. In addition, if she had told me to get over it, I would have surely told her she wouldn't understand what it meant to be fighting side by side and for the king, and having a deeper connection with the king than she ever did.
E. Lady Macbeth's character in short is interesting. In addition, she is shown to be manipulative, devious, persuasive, a bit of a coward, and extremely selfish. Her plan to kill the king, Macbeth, and then insulting Macbeth because he has second thoughts are the reasons she is a terrible person. For being the wife of Macbeth, she surely doesn't act like she truely loves him.
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Post by vazquezm16 on May 8, 2014 5:26:08 GMT -5
C. I do not understand the way Lady Macbeth is so hard on Macbeth. Lady Macbeth continues to berate Macbeth for his actions. I find this really annoying as she kept pushing Macbeth to do the murder, but when the time came she became really nervous. I do not think that she should be berating Macbeth considering that she could not go through with the murder herself. She is almost using him as a pawn and I suspect that if he got caught she would turn on him instantly.
E. I think that Macbeth killing the king was a mistake. The witches’ prophecy only foretold that Macbeth would be the king one day but she never actually told how. I think Macbeth killed the king because he got greedy and impatient. He even seems to genuinely regret his actions as shown in lines 44-46, “Still it cried, ‘Sleep no more’ to all the house; ‘Glamis hath murder’d sleep/, and therefore Cawdor Shall sleep no more; Macbeth shall sleep no more” It really seems like Macbeth did not think this plan through and was acting more on impulse than anything.
I. I agree with hankmichels F. Duncan surely had sons who will be in the line for the throne but he could not possibly have had that much interaction with his sons, as he was a king. These sons could possibly fight against each other for the throne and might get in the way of Macbeth and could lead to more problems for him down the road.
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Post by youssefj16 on May 8, 2014 16:35:57 GMT -5
I. I agree with Ray's E response about how we see the true natures of the characters in this scene. Macbeth isn't actually a bad person. He is just currently being tempted by the evil of greed and by Lady Macbeth. Lady Macbeth is the true evil person so far. She's the one who convinced Macbeth in killing Duncan, the one who made him do by himself, and the one truly is greedy for power.
G. If I were Macbeth in this scene, I would simply man up to my b**** of a wife, tell her that I'm a good person, and if she wants me to be king so badly and for Duncan to die, I would tell her to do it herself. And if she doesn't, well than he's not dying. She would eventually do it herself because she would be able to stand him alive anymore.
E. I wasn't really impressed with how Shakespeare portrayed the death of Duncan in this scene. I feel like the readers should have been up close actually experiencing Macbeth kill Duncan instead of behind a curtain and than finding out he's dead later after.
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Post by jotirmoykundu on May 8, 2014 18:19:49 GMT -5
I. I agree with raypark: “E. In this scene, we see the true colors and personalities of the characters Lady Macbeth and Macbeth. Macbeth turns out to be very logical and good-willed(In a way) and feels guilt for his actions. Macbeth is a human being and shows feelings that a human being should. Lady Macbeth shows herself as the devil in this scene. She basically controls Macbeth to kill someone and does not feel any guilt. She even went back to Duncan's dead body, took his blood with her hand, and wiped it on the guards as witnesses. Even after doing all this she says, "My hands are of your colour, but I shame To wear a heart so white." If anything, I feel that she is the main evil in the book. Poor Macbeth has to go through the terrors and nightmares of what he did, he will never forgive himself for doing so. He almost completely ruined the entire plan by holding on to the daggers that he used to kill the guards and the king. “
D. In this section of the reading, I really liked this quote:“Whence is that knocking?— How is’t with me, when every noise appals me? What hands are here! Ha, they pluck out mine eyes. Will all great Neptune’s ocean wash this blood Clean from my hand? No, this my hand will rather The multitudinous seas incarnadine, Making the green one red.” I think that deep down inside Macbeth didn’t want to kill him, but did because he was forced. In this quote, it seems like guilt has already clouded his mind. THit guilt will stay with him until his death. Lady Macbeth’s response to this speech and he was very weird in that she says the water went under the bridge.
F. If I was Macbeth during this scene, I would have killed the King. The King is so nice to him, and Macbeth knows that, but power and money is the motive. I sort of agree with Lady more, even though it sounds bad.
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Post by zaysofly on May 12, 2014 20:37:55 GMT -5
D: In this Scene we really see the fully comD: In this Scene we really see the fully committed, selfless, immoral Lady Macbeth for who she really is, and she is pretty insane. i love how Lady Macbeth not only drinks with the guards but also drinks herself, and is in a drunken stopper the whole entire time she is talking to macbeth when he is feeling guilty. She even goes to smear the blood on the swords all over the guards. I think she is really insane, and there is a deep dark side to this crazy women. Im glad I'm not to married to her. I also thought it was wrong of her to try and say, be a man and man up to macbeth when he is obviously going through some heavy guilt and Post traumatic Stress Disorder like symptoms at the time. I thought it was interesting how Lady Macbeths only reason she would not kill Duncan by herself is that Duncan resembled her own father. Macbeth feels guilty after hearing dun cans sons praying in the other room after killing their father, that he can't even say amen. Macbeth also talks about how he is worried about how he is going to get into Heaven and is also worried about how he is going to sleep in the future.
E: If i were macbeth i would feel like complete poop. I mean i just immorally killed someone who had two kids. What if this happens to me someday.
G: i can see macbeths hands covered in blood and a face of complete shock.
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