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Post by Mr. Thomas on May 5, 2014 10:12:12 GMT -5
"Is this a dagger that I see before me?"
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Post by stephanoscocoves on May 5, 2014 16:57:49 GMT -5
C. Im confused on whether or not the witches from the beginning are controlling what is happening to macbeth when he is having the allusion. Is he having it because the witches put the idea of him being king in his mind, and everything just happened to lead up to him having to kill the king, or are the witches controlling what he is seeing to ensure that he actually does kill the king and fulfills the prophecy? It's kind of confusing because he is about to something that would change the whole story and we haven't heard from the witches since the very beginning.
D. I like the lines " I go, and it is done. The bell invites me. Hear it not, Duncan, for it is a knell That summons thee to heaven or to hell." I like these lines because he is this is the end for the King. The moments before the death of King Duncan is so intense.
I. I agree with what Jackson said in class that the candles actually represented the stars instead of the candles of the palace.
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Post by jotirmoykundu on May 5, 2014 18:19:27 GMT -5
F. During this scene, while reading it, I felt that Macbeth was way too reckless and shouldn't be like that. . If I was him,i wouldve avoid saying dumb things to Banquo
D. In this section of the reading, I really liked the lines " I go, and it is done. The bell invites me. Hear it not, Duncan, for it is a knell That summons thee to heaven or to hell." These lines are anticipating the death of the king. The moments before the death of King Duncan is so intense and like almost blood rushing, despite the fact that it is a book!
I. I agree with stephenos," C. Im confused on whether or not the witches from the beginning are controlling what is happening to macbeth when he is having the allusion. Is he having it because the witches put the idea of him being king in his mind, and everything just happened to lead up to him having to kill the king, or are the witches controlling what he is seeing to ensure that he actually does kill the king and fulfills the prophecy? It's kind of confusing because he is about to something that would change the whole story and we haven't heard from the witches since the very beginning. "
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Post by michaelgenco on May 5, 2014 18:40:17 GMT -5
I. In response to what we were saying in class, I believe that Banquo is starting become suspicious about things that have been going on. This quote that Macbeth said gave Banquo some suspicion, “I think not of them; Yet when we can entreat an hour to serve, We would spend it in some words upon that business, If you would grant the time.” (lines 22-25) This quote gives Macbeth up a little because Banquo knows Macbeth is still thinking about the witches. When someone denies not thinking of being the next king you know they are lying.
D. A scene that I really enjoyed was when Mac beth was getting worked up over killing the king: “I see thee yet, in form as palpable as this which now I draw. Thou marshall’st me the way that I was going. and such an instrument I was to use. Mine eyes are made the fools o’th’other senses, or else worth all the rest. I see thee still, and on thy blade and dudgeon gouts of blood, it is the bloody business which informs thus to mine eyes.” (Lines 40-49) I thought that this quote really shows how Macbeth is getting ready to kill King Duncan, and how he is maning up to his word.
F. During this scene I felt that Macbeth was way to careless. If I was him I would think before I say. For example, when he is talking to Banquo he says a lot of stupid things that he could have avoided if he had a brain.
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Post by richteri16 on May 5, 2014 19:21:11 GMT -5
I. I too think that Banquo is becoming more and more suspicious of what Macbeth is up to but also the fact that he is succumbing to the temptation of the “prophecy” foretold by the witches. He even says early in scene one to himself that he is having these temptations. The question is what are these temptations and more importantly will he act upon them? Then he hopes that these thoughts could be restrained within him. This sheds light on the fact that these temptations are evil. Maybe he wants to kill Macbeth? The plot thickens…
D. I like the lines at the end of scene one spoken by Macbeth after the bell rings. This is like the deal sealer here for Macbeth and Duncan’s fate. Also he makes it sound like it is out of his hands now. He says how it is his turn to be judged to go to heaven or hell. This is odd because it is like he is saying ‘Ok I am absolved of this and its out of my hands. Duncan has to die and that is the end of that”. In reality this is false. He could just say no and live happily ever after with his evil wife.
F. At this point in the story I feel like everyone’s relationships are falling apart. Macbeth and Banquo are stuck in this awkward and semi-deadly situation of the witches and their prophecy. Next you have Macbeth and his wife with her clearly taking advantage of Macbeth. Finally you have Macbeth planning to kill Duncan which violates the trust Duncan had for Macbeth and also terminates their relationship.
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Post by rozzayhill007 on May 5, 2014 19:41:22 GMT -5
I. I also think that Banquo is becoming more suspicious of Macbeth. He is able to see it in Macbeth's actions, and the stress and weariness in Macbeth as well. Macbeth is not able to hide his emotions that well, and I think that Banquo, seeing how Macbeth is acting, could figure out what is going on and possibly but a stop to this madness.
G. If I were Macbeth I would try harder to hide my emotios becasue they could give away too much about what is going on, and the plan him and his wife have to kill Duncan. Hiding his emotions would not make Banquo as suspicious, and it would lead anybody away who might know anyting about the plan between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth.
D. Lines that I like are spoken by Macbeth and are the very last lines of the scene. They say, " I go and it is done. The bell invites me. Hear it not, Duncan for it is a knell that summons thee to heaven, or to hell." I like these lines because, now we see the confidence in Macbeth. While this may not be the best decision, Macbeth is no longer hesitant, and coawrdly, he is showing true King like signs, and that it is good for him. He now realizes that this needs to be done, and he has to be the one to do it.
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Post by bakerm16 on May 5, 2014 20:20:31 GMT -5
C. As we see in the early stages of this Act along with all of Act 1 Macbeth is not good at hiding his emotions. My real question though is why he has such a hard time with it. We know that Macbeth and his wife Lady Macbeth are planning on killing king Duncan. This fact alone should say keep quiet and don't to anything to make yourself noticed. Apparently Macbeth does not know how to do that. It's like he wears his emotions on his sleeves instead of bundling them up like he is supposed to.
E. I feel like the witches play a role in Macbeth on the journey to killing King Duncan however I do not think that he is being completely controlled by them. In the witches prophecy King Duncan is killed. In Macbeth's mind he is king and the only way for that to happen is to in fact kill king Duncan. The witches realize that and so do we. I feel like the witches are pushing him and keeping him focused on killing the prince while he himself wants to be king and realizes what he has to do to become it.
I. I am kin of curious as to where Banquo and Macbeth will go from here. Their relationship is obviously rocky at the moment which Ian Richter said. I feel like when Macbeth becomes king Banquo will end up out of the picture.
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Post by raypark on May 5, 2014 20:29:32 GMT -5
E. In this scene we see that there is a potential of having lots of trouble arise. Banquo has started to have some suspicions against Macbeth trying to see what he is doing and figure out what he wants to do. It is very interesting to see that macbeth is quarelling with himself to make himself do the act or committ the act of killing King Duncan. Although his head says to kill Duncan and finally become King, his heart tells him to not do it and find a different way of apporoaching the scenario. The fact of the matter is that, if Macbeth wants to do it, he has to do it now. He doesn't have time to dilly dally and do things slowly. Things have to be done dast and quickly.
C. There are somethings in which I dont understand. "Thou marshall'st me the way that I was going, And such an instrument I was to use. Mine eyes are made the fools o'th'other senses, Or else worth all the rest. I see thee still," What does this line mean? I do understand taht he is motivatign himself to get on with the act but it almost seems like he is trying to not kill the king. It seems that he is trying to have a sense of logical reasoning and see if there is any other way around it. After this he then criticizes himself for being less of a man and having foolish eys.
I. I agree with ian Richter that as the story goes on everyone's relationship slowly falls apart. Even Macbeth and lady Macbeth's relationship isnt as great as it was before. Now lady Macbeth just wants to become Queen and will not stop constantly bug macbeth about it.
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Post by idelfonsoe16 on May 5, 2014 20:58:57 GMT -5
C. Macbeth is having a mental collapse. Why is he hallucinating all of a sudden with a dagger? Is he finally losing his mind? I am really concerned for the wellbeing of Macbeth now. He was totally fine before Lady Macbeth convinced him to do this murderous task, but now he’s going crazy. Why is he being such a freak show? I can understand you’re a little scared about what the witches said, but bro, it’s not that serious. Maybe things got a little coincidental. Take a chill pill. I don’t understand. Nothing has been told to us that the witches could possibly have any sort of power against the seeds of time or whatnot. How could this be them? Mind control?
D. This is my favorite quote so far and I will explain why: “I go, and It is done. The bell invites me. Hear it not, Duncan, for it is a knell that summons thee to heaven or to hell.” It is my favorite quote because it shows Macbeth’s ultimate transformation to complete evil right then and there, and he is just about ready to become the king, no matter what.
I. I don’t like to comprehend that the witches have any type of power over time. Can they make up futures? Definitely. They probably BS’d in front of Macbeth, and literally just camped out and said “y’know what, betcha five Scottish coins he’ll actually believe what we said, muahahaha.” They probably were just bored destroying the fat lady’s life that they wanted to destroy the success of Macbeth, for fun!
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Post by hankmichels on May 5, 2014 21:53:24 GMT -5
H. Macbeth walks down the long dark hallway. He can barely see his hands in front of his face. Dim candels line the walls, but they do nothing to fix the darkness in front of him. as macbeth trods slowly along, he notices a shimmering up ahead. That shimmering takes the shape of a hand hold a dagger which really freaks macbeth out. “ daggar of the mind, a false creation proceeding from the heat oppressed brain” macbeth says, trying to shrug off the apparition as a trick of the mind. Eventuall macbeth reaches his room where he looks out over is balcony into the night. The balcony is made of stone and is very sturdy. Not for comfort. In the distance a bell rings and macbeth prepares to go in for the kill.
G. so ive wondered before what the relationship between macbeth and banquo. It seems as if they are friends, but now I feel like they for sure are just aquantinces. There might be some friendship there, but banquo clearly would turn in macbeth if he found out what he was doing. He has already grown suspicious; “why sir, not ye at rest?” he inquires.
E. (in response to banquo’s dream about the witches) “I think not of them”. I found it funny how quick macbeth is to say this. Its obvious hes let the thought of them corrupt him.
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Post by zaysofly on May 6, 2014 20:18:54 GMT -5
D: "Hold, take my sword.---Theres husbandry in heaven. their candles are all out.--take thee that too. A heavy summons lies like lead upon me. and yet i would not sleep, merciful powers, restrain in me the cursed thoughts that nature gives way to in repose." basically Banquo is saying that in heaven, its so safe and their no temptation and no worries about anything. He has a lot of burdens on him right now, and he can't sleep. The candles represent all the stars in heaven. He is kind of praying so that some spirit could lift up his burden so that he can rest. i thought it was really funny and ironic how just after ban quo gives this speech and relieves his sword and ban quo is talking about how he just want to be holy in heaven, macbeth walks in like gimme a sword i have some killing to do, not literally of coarse. And ban quo becomes suspicious as to why Macbeth had not retired for the evening. To add a little more dramatic irony to this situation, Duncan had given a gift to macbeth and lady macbeth for their hospitality, right before macbeth is about to kill him. Oh, the humanity! Banquo this scene gets a change of heart for how he feels about the witches curse.
E: If i were macbeth i would be scared. i just seemingly saw a dagger with blood on it before i even stabbed someone.
C: Is the sword banquos or is it another guards cause if so ban quo is going to be held accountable for the murder of duncan.
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Post by youssefj16 on May 8, 2014 16:25:43 GMT -5
I. In reply to steph's C reply, I don't think it is an illusion because Banquo saw the witches as well and Banquo isn't going crazy about being king or whatever. I believe that Macbeth is starting to build up greed for power and is also getting tempted by his wife into atually killing the king.
F. I'm starting to think that Banquo is becoming very suspicious of Macbeth. He was with him in the beginning with the witches and im staring to think that he knows that Macbeth wants to be king and that he;s going to kill Duncan. This could be a huge problem for Macbeth because there could always be that one person who knows what really happened.
D. I like the part when Macbeth is walking down the hallway and sees an image of a dagger with the hilt pointing at him. This image represent Macbeth taking the dagger and using it to kill Duncan. When I picture this image, I think of a very dark hallway with horror music playing in the background.
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