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Post by Mr. Thomas on May 2, 2014 6:51:09 GMT -5
"False face must hide what false heart doth know."
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Post by hessd16 on May 3, 2014 10:50:25 GMT -5
e. i feel like these scenes are dominated by Lady Macbeth, who is probably the most memorable character in the play so far. Her violent soliloquies in Act 1, scenes 5 and 7, testify to her strength of will, which completely is more than Macbeth's. She is vindictive and has a lust for power. She realizes that if Macbeth is king than she will be queen and have riches.
c. why is Lady Macbeth so evil and twisted? why is she so willing to give up her female attributes to have riches? what did macbeth see in her to marry her? did she maybe scare Macbeth into marrying her? if Macbeth is such a daring valiant and fearless warrior why can he not stand up to his wife?
b. Come, you spirits
That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here,
And fill me from the crown to the toe top-full
Of direst cruelty.
(displays Lady Macbeth willing to do anything for power)
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Post by rozzayhill007 on May 3, 2014 15:23:31 GMT -5
I. I agree with what Dakota said in his E response. I also feel that Lady Macbeth has "taken over" the last couple of scenes. She has kind of literally taken over as well, becasue she is able to manipulate Macbeth and persuade him into killing the King of Cawdor. Lady Macbeth is trying to do anything to convince Macbeth to kill him so that she can become queen
D. The line that I like occurs when Macbeth is talking to Lady Macbeth about their plan. "If we should fail? 'We fail? But screw your courage tp the sticking place, and we'll not fail." I like these lines because it shows the true king in Macbeth and thinking of the consequences of this plan. He does not want to face anything bad when he is reigning as king. He does not want people to not believe in him as a king, he wants to be likable amongst the people and not hated.
C. Why is Lady Macbeth so cruel and evil? I know that she wants to become queen, but she might be going over the top in wanting to kill the current king. She might be over doing it with the decisions she has made thus far, and I think that if Macbeth decides not to listen to what she says I think that something could go down between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth.
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Post by richteri16 on May 4, 2014 9:03:36 GMT -5
E. I really feel that Lady Macbeth is the only driving force that is behind Macbeth for killing Duncan now. I think that Macbeth has kind of chickened out and does not want to do the deed of killing Duncan. Now Lady Macbeth is just manipulating Macbeth to do it. I feel bad for Macbeth in a way. He seems to have gotten over it but now he is in a tight spot.
C. Why does Lady Macbeth want to kill Duncan so much? She is not going to have the majority of the power anyway it will just be Macbeth as king and Lady Macbeth as queen kind of on the side. I don’t know how much richer they could get too. Macbeth is already a duke or governor of multiple provinces. They could just live the rest of their lives out in peace and not have any worries.
I. I agree with rozzayhill007 on response D. You can really see the sensibility of Macbeth here. Also we see that, like I said before, Macbeth really does not want to kill Duncan. He feels bad for doing it. Now it is just Lady Macbeth pushing him to do it. In these lines we see that he is looking for a way out. He is trying o make up excuses at this point. He is doing whatever it takes to get out of it. I think that later in the story we can expect to see much more procrastination from Macbeth about doing evil things or things that are just hard to do from a moral standpoint.
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Post by stephanoscocoves on May 4, 2014 14:32:32 GMT -5
D. The line I liked was " To our own lips. He's here in double trust: First, as I am his kinsman and his subject, Strong bouth against the deed: then, as his host, Who should against his murder shut the door, Not bear the knife myself. Here he is saying he is both the friend of the king and the enemy. It seems like he is going to end up killing the king.
C. I'm confused about why Lady Macbeth is so evil. It doesn't seem like a hero like Macbeth would associate someone like her with his life. I was also shocked that when she brought up the idea of killing him that he didn't have a different reaction because it was so outrageous.
I. agree with richter16 E response I feel as if Lady Macbeth is sort of controlling Macbeth. Does she have something to do with the witches controlling powers?
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Post by zaysofly on May 4, 2014 16:59:48 GMT -5
D: I thought it was really quirky and funny how Lady Macbeth was being extremely nice and being a great host to king Duncan as soon as he walked inside the home of the Macbeth's. Mean while on the other side of her mind she is saying look like the innocent flower and be the snake under it. She is basically being extremely fake in front of Duncan, so that she can kill him unexpectedly. Its also dramatic irony because we know that lady macbeth is going to kill duncan, but duncan doesn't know. I thought it was also funny how duncan and ban quo love the house and spend lines talking about how kind and trustworthy macbeth and lady macbeth are and how nice there home is and how kind they are, meanwhile it like their admiring their death trap and killers. You can tell how committed Macbeth is because he is conspiring different ways to take out macbeth. For instance instead of killing him he says that if someone were to attack Duncan, he would purposely not stop that man. Lady Macbeth is being very manipulating and teasing and toying with Macbeths manhood. she calls him a coward and says that he is giving up.
C: maybe the hand with the dagger that the witches buried represented the guards dagger, because macbeth said that he was going to use the guards weapons to blame it on them.
G; If i were duncan, i would feel so comforted and relaxed. not a worry in the sky
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Post by michaelgenco on May 4, 2014 17:08:12 GMT -5
B. When Macbeth was was debating about how he was going to kill the king it reminded me of Smeagol from lord of the rings. "If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly. If th' assassination Could trammel up the consequence and catch with his surcease, success, that but this blow Might be the be-all and the end-all- here, But here, upon this bank and shoal of time, we'd jump the life back" ( lines 1-7) This quote reminds me of smegol because when I thought of Macbeth saying this it seemed like he was two faced like smegol. One second he is saying how he can't kill him and how nice of a person he is, then he is saying how he has to kill him fast and quick so he can become king. To me, this is really weird and it seems like he has some sign of metal disorder.
E. A quote that I really find funny is this: " See, see, our honour'd hostess. The love that follows us sometime is out trouble, which still we thank as love. " I find this quote funny because the reader knows how much Lady Macbeth wants to kill king Duncan, and king Duncan says how nice the hostess is.
C. One thing that I don't understand is how gullible the king is. He doesn't have really anyone guarding him when he is at Macbeth's castle and it seems kind of weird. Also, why is lady Macbeth taking over Macbeth's life. It seems like she is a very bossy wife.
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Post by idelfonsoe16 on May 4, 2014 19:38:18 GMT -5
C. Lady Macbeth has some serious issues. Why does she want to become Queen so badly? Does she not have any sympathy for Duncan at all? Her selfish ways are really making Macbeth the soldier he does not want to be. Why does she want this title so badly, to the point that she prayed for her female attitudes and emotions to go away? “Come, you spirits that tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here…” (15). She really has some materialist issues.
I. Hessd’s C response is exactly what I asked. IT IS SERIOUS, PEOPLE. I just don’t understand why she wants to become a man all of a sudden. You don’t have to be “unsexed” to have the guts…. Maybe she’s the reason why Macbeth is so uneasy about what he’s planning on doing to Duncan.
E. Maybe Macbeth isn’t so bad as a guy as we thought. He doesn’t want to kill Duncan at all. It’s his sadistic goth wife that wants all the action. Macbeth should just do her what he did to McDonald and call it a day. If only things worked that way… NOPE. I can bet hard cash right now he’s going to attempt to murder Duncan in his sleep, maybe chicken out or accidentally wake Duncan up, and play it off like “oh I was just admiring the way you sleep”, then he get’s divorced from his power loving wife. I’m just improvising, because Macbeth can become an instant killing machine. After all, it’s his house, his rules…
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Post by hankmichels on May 4, 2014 20:10:01 GMT -5
H. The Main hall in Macbeth’s castle is bright and well lit from the sun shining through the large windows. Even so, the candles and torches still are ablaze throughout the castle. The round table stands in the center of the room. The vase of roses is there but it has slowly began to wither. King Duncan, Malcom, Donalbain, Banquo, Lennox, Macduff, Ross, Angus and some assorted attendants enter through the main gate and look about. The all have on some light armor, more casual than for battle. They all have their swords, but they are sheathed and unused. Duncan looks around and says: “this castle hath pleasant seat. The air Nimbly and sweetly recommends itself Unto our gentle senses.” Macbeth approaches from the second floor balcony and greets them like friends. A feast ensues
C. Why would Macbeth invite all these people over do his castle for a big slumber party or whatever when hes planning on killing the king. I can understand the kings attendants coming but why all these other random characters who will probably make it 3 times as hard to kill this guy. It is macbeth’s castle so he should be able to choose who comes and goes. Heck, he should have just hired some mercenaries or snuck out in the night himself to do the murder. His castle is to risky.
E. “See see our honored hostess! The love that follows us sometimes is our trouble.” I love this quote by Duncan because its really phony and ass-kissing
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Post by jotirmoykundu on May 5, 2014 9:40:24 GMT -5
I. I agree with Richteri E. response: “I really feel that Lady Macbeth is the only driving
force that is behind Macbeth for killing Duncan now. I think that Macbeth has kind of
chickened out and does not want to do the deed of killing Duncan. Now Lady Macbeth is just
manipulating Macbeth to do it. I feel bad for Macbeth in a way. He seems to have gotten
over it but now he is in a tight spot.”
E. I felt like in this reading, ] these scenes are focused on by Lady Macbeth. She has the spotlight and
takes over and basically dominates. She is probably the most memorable character in the play so
far. Her violent soliloquies in Act 1, scenes 5 and 7, testify to her strength of will, which completely is
more than Macbeth's. She really wants and has a lust for power. She realizes that if Macbeth is king
than she will be queen and have riches, which she really wants.
D. The line that I like is when Macbeth is talking to Lady Macbeth about their plan. "If we should
fail?’We fail? But screw your courage to the sticking place, and we'll not fail." I like these lines
because you see the true form of Macbeth and thinking of the consequences of this plan as well
as the repercussions. He does not want people to not believe in him as a king and wants to be
everyone’s friend
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Post by raypark on May 5, 2014 20:21:39 GMT -5
E. In these two scenes, we see the real person that is hiding inside each character. Firstly Macbeth isn't the person that we first thought. In the beginning of the play, Macbeth seemed to be the cold-hearted killer that would do anything to become king, even if it means to kill the current king. But when push comes to shove, when he finally has the opportunity to kill Duncan he decides not to do it. This act of Macbeth shows us that Macbeth is really a warm-hearted person in the inside. When Macbeth is talking with Lady Macbeth, he says "We will procceed no further in this business. He hath honour'd me of late, and I have bought Golden opinions from all sorts of people, Which would be worn now in their newest gloss, Not cast aside so soon." This shows that Macbeth does have a heart and a mind that beholds innocence. Lady Macbeth is completely different however. When Macbeth tells her this she replies "Was the hope drunk Wherein you dress'd yourself? Hath it sleep since? And wakes it now to look so green and pale At waht it did so freely?" She criticizes Macbeth for not doing this sinful act. She is the evil in this book.
C. There are some confusing things taht I still do not understand. Why does lady macbeth want to become Queen so badly? Or why does she want Macbeth to become King so badly? Is there some kind of reward that she will recieve for achieving the goal of Killing King Duncan? And even if she does successfully kill Duncan, she still has to deal with Malcolm.
I. I agree with Jotirmoy in the fact that Lady Macbeth does dominate. She has the absolute power in these scenes, even over the Main character Macbeth.
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Post by youssefj16 on May 8, 2014 16:16:05 GMT -5
E. In these scenes, I feel as if you can really see that Lady Macbeth is ad dominant character who basically gets what she wants. She is a huge reason why Macbeth is going to proceed with the assassination of Duncan. She tempted him by basically telling him that he's not a man and that he's too afraid. I feel like if anybody wants to throne badly, it's her. She's becoming very greedy and expects Macbeth to do everything while she lays back and watches.
C. Why does Macbeth want the throne so badly. He's willing to kill a hopeless old man just to have more power and for what? He already is a thane of two places and has a very high amount of power.
I. In response to Hank's C response, I believe he is inviting them for a "slumber party" as you say because he want them to think that Macbeth is a very close friend to them and he doesn't want them to get suspicious when Macbeth assassinates the king.
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