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Post by nvanible on Sept 16, 2013 1:36:05 GMT -5
C. When Calypso said, “Hard-hearted you are, you gods! You unrivaled lords of jealousy-scandalized when goddesses sleep with mortals, openly, even when one has made the man her husband,” is she a typical character that has been purposely introduced to be the romantic confusion in the story, or a romantic conflict, meant to tempt the hero into staying with her? Is the character type, “Calypso” used to be the subject of seduction in stories, to represent the “malicious temptations” of others, by testing their willpower to see if they can resist a Goddess as beautiful as herself? In addition, why is it that Calypso can develop feelings for a mortal like Odysseus, but other goddesses cannot?
D. When Odysseus quotes, “Ah great goddess, don’t be angry with me, please. All that you say is true, how well I know. Look at my wise Penelope. She falls far short of you, your beauty, and stature. She is mortal after all and you, you never age or die...” I was very proud of him, as well as shocked and intrigued. This is mainly because that he was able to overcome one of his more “mysterious” challenges yet. Despite the fact that there was a woman, far superior in beauty and overall looks to his wife, he was able to easily resist the urge of temptation and settle on going home, over staying with Calypso.
G. Odysseus reacts, “Long-enduring Odysseus shuddered at that and broke out in a sharp flight of protest,” and as I “enter” his mind, it is obvious that his mind is very fragmented, flustered with several extreme emotions all bungled together into one. For example, Odysseus is feeling irritated and annoyed that others are trying to deliberately hold him back from making it back to his homeland. He struggles to find ways out, but that feeling of anger continues to build up, eventually dispelling itself into depression and isolation. Despite living with the beautiful Calypso, Odysseus has lost all signs of happiness, tunneling himself into a state of sorrow and grief, as he tries to cope with the fact that he is far from home, or in his opinion, “an eternity’s journey” from home.
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Post by jotirmoykundu on Sept 16, 2013 4:24:29 GMT -5
I.I agree with rozzay007 with his letter C response. I also think that they were sailing and were sinking, but too much to the point where they can’t get out. I derived it from the quote “Many pains he suffered, heartsick on the open sea, fighting to save his life and bring his comrades home. But he could not save them from disaster, hard as he strove" I thought a lot of men died that day, but fortunately few escaped.
C. In the first book, although it doesn’t say it, it is obvious that Poseidon has beef with Odysseus, but it is unjustified Does it have something to do with the Trojan War? One other question I have is why is Calypso lust for Odysseus when he is just a mortal and she is a god who can have anyone she wants. It doesn’t clearly state why Poseidon is so mad at him and it doesn’t seem right for a god to want a mortal so bad.
G. If I were Odysseus i would feel like the most unlucky man and just give up on life because it felt like the whole world was against him and is sucks cause he hasn’t done anything wrong and he never broke any rules. He even gets harassment from the gods! If I were him, I would of lost all hope and unfortunately give up Calypso as much as I really don’t want to.
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Post by vazquezm16 on Sept 16, 2013 19:10:46 GMT -5
B. I think that this passage was very important regarding the rest of the text because it showed Odysseus’ drives to get back to his family. Odysseus had rebelled against Calypsos and actively wondered about how he would get back to his family. He cared so much about getting back that he would just sit on the beach and cry in want of returning to his home. If we did not hear about Odysseus being kidnapped by Calypsos and the emotional turmoil he went through, we would not understand the extent of his drive to get hom.
D. I really enjoyed the quote by Calypsos essentially calling the gods hypocrites fro wanting to keep Odysseus. “Hard-hearted you are, you gods! You unrivaled lords of jealousy-scandalized when goddesses sleep with mortals, openly, even when one has made the man her husband.” Calypsos is basically criticizing all the other gods because they are allowed to associate with mortals and do whatever they want but when Calypsos tried she is scolded by Zeus, who himself was a large womanizer.
E. I was a little disappointed in first meeting Odysseus, the famed warrior who had battled trials to get home, seeing him crying because he can’t make it back to his family. Odysseus seems to be less than the hero everybody was expecting him to be. He quickly changes as soon as Calypsos agrees to let him go. He becomes invigorated and starts preparing his raft.
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Post by petergiglio on Sept 16, 2013 19:58:26 GMT -5
C. What really confused me about this passage just like the rest of the story so far is why does Poseidon have such a grudge on Odysseus? It is still yet to be explained and leaves me really curious about why and what he had to do cause it must of been bad. Was it something he did while at war or for something previous is what I continue to ask myself.
G. If I were Odysseus I would be extremely confused and frightened as I why he is being puniShed and tormented so much because he doesn't seem to understand it either according to some lines. Overall I would also just want to go home and see my wife because I haven't seen her for almost 20 years nor have heard from her. Most marriages don't even last that long and this one is lasting at such long distance.
D. What was amusing to me was the fight Odysseus continues to put on and never give up especially here when he is at sea although he wants to just let the current take him and kill him because he is so tired and exhausted. But he knows he's a warrior and war hero so it would look terrible for him to go down without at fight
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Post by Cameron Smith on Oct 2, 2013 9:54:21 GMT -5
C. On page 152 the gods talk about how people only remember the mean and rude kings. Why would people only remember the mean kings? Odysseus was a very nice king and when he left for Troy people slowly forgot about him. Lines 13-14 he is described as “that godlike man, and kindly as a father to his children.” I think people wouldn’t remember the good, nice kings because they are too focused on hating the ones who are mean and only care about themselves, their legacy, their wealth, but not the people they are to rule and lead. People wouldn’t remember Odysseus because he focused on his homeland as well as all the other things he had; like his family.
D. I enjoyed the line 31 “while the suitors limp back to port, defeated, baffled men.” I thought it was funny that the gods would not only protect Telemachus, but defeat the suitors as well. I was also confused. I thought that the Gods were not allowed to interfere with the fate of mortals. Even though she had convinced Telemachus to go was she still allowed to help him?
H. lines 44-64: I imagined a young man about my age without a beard and with bright gold running sandals. He is wearing a dark blue robe. He has brown hair. As he ran across the ocean and to the island I imagined almost a speed boat wake going behind him. He looks like a blur of light and colors as he runs.
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