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Post by Mr. Thomas on Dec 5, 2013 18:03:21 GMT -5
Impracticality of the hero model?
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Post by richteri16 on Dec 5, 2013 19:44:27 GMT -5
C. Why would Sancho tag along with Don? Clearly he is a nut for thinking he is a knight in shining amour. Maybe the two were friends before hand but this still doesn’t work out. If my friend decided to put on some amour and pretend to be a knight then I would probably stay away from him. Then when Don decided to attack windmills because he thinks they are giants. Clearly this man has gone off the deep end now. Yet Sancho sticks along like some kind of sidekick. Does he just have nothing better to do? The world may never know…
E. I find Don’s transformation into a knight quite funny. When he has done enough reading in old takes of heroism and chivalry he decides to make his own story. He goes and picks up some old armour that has been in his family forever. The stuff has been rusting in a corner forever. His weapon, a lance, is in no better condition either. It even winds up shattering later when he attacks some giants aka windmills. His helmet is in horrible condition with pieces missing. He just decides to cover it up with pasteboard. His horse is in no better condition either. It had blemishes on its skin and cracked hoofs. The horse was also nothing more that skin and bones. Yet Don doesn’t care and saddles up to begin his quest.
G. I will play the role of Sancho. He seems to have no real concern for what is going on around himself. When Don decides to attack some windmills he just gives up on arguing with him all together and lets Don do his thing. However when Don falls and injures himself Sancho becomes very concerned and runs to help. After that he returns to his relaxed attitude and trudges behind Don sipping wine and eating dinner.
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Post by rozzayhill007 on Dec 5, 2013 20:00:20 GMT -5
Jackson Hill
D. Some lines that I like are on page 1011 at the beginning of Chapter VIII. They say, “ Look there, friend Snacho Panza, where thirty or more monstrous giants rise up, all of whom I mean to engage in battle and slay, and with whose spoils we shall begin to make our fortunes… What we see there are not giants but windmills, and what seem to be their arms are the vanes that turned by the wind make millstone go.” I like these lines because they are funny to me and they also show just how stupid and mental Don Quixote is.
C. One thing I am confused about is on page 1010, the first sentence. It says, “ He proceeded to inspect his nag, which, with its cracked hoofs and more blemishes than the steed of Gonela.” What is a nag in this context? I think it could be some type of animal because it mentions hoofs, but I am not really sure what it is.
I. I agree with what Ian said in his letter E response. Sancho is kind of a lazy person, who has no real concern with his surroundings. He is very lackadaisical about certain things, but in other situations he jumps up and is quickly absorbed in what is happening at that time.
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Post by michaelgenco on Dec 5, 2013 20:08:44 GMT -5
C. In the first paragraph I was quite confused about oh the author was talking about the man’s name. Is he trying to be funny because that is what it seems to me. After reading the first two pages I must say that many parts seem very bland. For example, on page 1008 the author just touches on the idea of these scars. How did he get them? Why did he get them? Why did Quexana admire a man that robbed everyone that he met and also stole a religious picture? How can you have that person as your ideal?
D. A scene that I found very humorous was when Quexana says “He would put into practice all that he had read of as being the usual practices of knights-errant: righting every king of wrong, exposing himself to peril and danger from which he would emerge to reap eternal fame and glory.” I found this funny because this grown man, who is in his fifties, decided to become a knight because he read books about it. He sounds like he is a little kid day dreaming about being a knight, which seems very funny to me since he is older than that. How can he expect to be a knight if has only read books? Reading and doing is totally different and that is why I find this funny.
I. I completely agree with richteri16’s C response. Sancho is a total idiot. How can he tag around with don! I love this story because of the humor.
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Post by hankmichels on Dec 5, 2013 20:23:26 GMT -5
F. I really have no idea why Sancho decides to work for Don Qixote. Clearly, he is delusional. Don Quixote takes him in as his squire for probably no pay to go and attack windmills. Sancho must really have nothing to live for. “It is easy to see,” Replied Don Quixote, “That you are not used to this business of adventures”. This line shows that one, Quixote is bossing Sancho around, and two Quixote is dumb. Sancho is clearly right about the windmills, but Don Quixote thinks they are giants. Im mean seriously, who would want to be a squire for this guy?
E. I Think that in a way, this story is kind of sad. The whole story is about this guy who is suffering from depression and wishes he could be more. He probably feels like his life is useless and wants to be something more. So he becomes and adventurer. Kind of like how little kids think Star Wars is cool, soy they pretend they are Jedis. And that is pretty much what Quixote is doing. Pretending, but without even knowing he is doing it. His mind is probably so wrapped up in becoming an adventurer so he thinks windmills are giants and attacks random people. This isn’t a funny story. It’s a story about depression and its horrible results.
H. Quixote and Sancho sit on their mules in the expanse of the plains/desert. In the distance, windmills line the hills. The sun sets in the background.
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Post by idelfonsoe16 on Dec 5, 2013 20:57:05 GMT -5
C. How come Sancho doesn’t stop Quixote from attacking the mills? Well, he does advise him that he is going to try and fight a windmill, but it seems as if Quixote ignored his advisement. Either way, Sancho could’ve just I guess you could say break Quixote’s dreams and tell him that the medieval times are over. Not only would Quixote not fight windmills, but Sancho wouldn’t be tagging along with a psycho. G. Although this sounds crazy, but I would cast the role of Don Quixote. Being THAT crazy sounds like a lot of fun! Also, when I read literature, I tend to pretend to be a part of the story, to make the book more interesting. I do that mostly when I’m not reading the book or I finished it, because sometimes I wish that a certain book was longer, so I imagine myself going on a journey of my own based upon that reading. Plus, wearing an ancient family heirloom and roleplaying as a knight? THAT SOUNDS AWESOME! I. I have to say I agree with Hank’s E response. Don Quixote seems as if he was born in the wrong era! He seems so interested in chivalry and knighthood, it almost seems like he was put in a different era for suffering. Hank’s reference with Star Wars is also a perfect example. It literally defines what Don Quixote is doing. Maybe Quixote is just wanting some excitement in his life or something. I feel bad for him, because at times I feel as if I was born in the wrong era, too.
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Post by zaysofly on Dec 5, 2013 21:41:20 GMT -5
C: Why does he perfer to leave the village unnamed? Also, what is a lance and what is a lance rack? Also why does Sancho tag along with Don? Also, why after naming his horse did he want to name himself. it just didnt seem right, doesnt he already have a name.
D: I found the quote from the text that Don would read. " the reason of the unreason with which my unreason is afflicted so weakens my reason that with reason i complain of your beauty" After being utterly confused by this sentence i was able to laugh at it just looking at the number of times they used the word reason. Also, was he talking about how he wrote this or that he read it during his travels. i also thought it was funny how while Don was getting ready, Sancho was just complaining and nagging, not doing anything. But then when Don falls down, Sancho is there at his rescue. He just somehow gained a burstt of energy.
I i agree with richteri16 about how weird Sancho is and the way he acts in certain situations.
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Post by petergiglio on Dec 5, 2013 22:21:40 GMT -5
C. i am confused and dont know why sancho would tag along with don i mean he isnt at all fit and doesnt work out but is still pretending to be a knight which is strange to me and also how is he not named? i mean isnt everyone supposed to have a name or is required to have a name and how do you name yourself? thats odd. plus why does he name the horse first... does he care deeply about this horse. lots of weird questions. id rather read the odyssey.
A. this could relate to today because there are some people in today society that just tag along with the popular kid trying to fit in never truly findinh themselves and i feel like that is what sancho is trying to do. or the not so bright kid hanging around the smart kids to seem smart or the successful ones to seem successful
i. i agree with richters c response and that he is not the brightest or sharpest tool in the shed. id avoid him
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Post by youssefj16 on Dec 5, 2013 22:28:05 GMT -5
E. I found this whole story kind of hilarious. I saw a movie about it once before when I was younger but I now finally understand how....dumb it really is. This guy don is a nut job, after he reads stories about heroes and fantasies, he automatically decides he wants to become a knight...ok..that's normal. I. I agree with richter about why Sancho would want to tag along with don in his "adventure". Dosen't he know that don is crazy? If I knew somnebody that just decided that they were going to go out of they way and pretend to be a knight, I would stay as far away as him as possible. Maybe Sancho is a nut job too! I also agree with ZAYsoFLY about how that quote was funny. I was confused but I didn't even care what he meant. I got a good kick out of it.\ G: Although Don is a total idiot and nut job, I would love to play his role and act crazy and pretend to be a knight. When I was little, I loved knights and the middle ages and I always pretended to be a knight, so I would like to play his role because I could kinda compare him to me.
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Post by stephanoscocoves on Dec 5, 2013 22:47:59 GMT -5
C. I was very confused in the begging of the book. It felt as if i was lost, like i had been thrown into the middle of a story and it was kind of hard to follow what was going on. I didnt understand when they were saying his name was "x" and then could also be "y", that really didnt make sense. E. I thought the story was very funny. I use to read Don Quixote in spanish class and now i understand him a little better. He is a very funny guy would want to become a hero. I. I agree with richteri16 his transformation was funny. I think he is a hilarious character. thats probably why I read stories about him when i was was growing up in 5th and sixth grade.
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Post by vazquezm16 on Dec 5, 2013 23:12:04 GMT -5
C. I am confused as to why Sancho Panza decides to stay with Don Quixote even after he calls the windmills giants. He obviously sees that Don Quixote is crazy and yet he continues to follow him. We do not get a lot of information on Sancho Panza in the story but I would assume that he is either a close friend or a servant of Don Quixote. I think that he might be sticking around to make sure that Don Quixote does not seriously injure himself. D. I enjoyed the quote where Don Quixote criticizes Sancho Panza for not “seeing” the giants. “It is easy to see, that you are not used to this business of adventures. Those are giants, and if your are afraid, away with you out of here and betake yourself to prayer, while I engage them in fierce and unequal combat.” I thought this quote was really funny because it shows how convince Don Quixote is that he is on an adventure to the point of making up giants and putting his friend down for not seeing the imaginary giants. I. I agree with richteri16 on E. Don Quixote has substandard gear but believes in his adventure so much that he uses old equipment to the point of actually repairing a helmet with pasteboard. I think this shows that he was just that dedicated to his adventure that he wanted to get to it as fast as possible no matter the cost. He has become so delusional that he completely disregards his own safety.
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Post by jotirmoykundu on Dec 6, 2013 12:24:35 GMT -5
C. What I didn’t understand is why Sancho Panza decides to stay with Don Quixote. He even thought that the windmills were giants. He feels that Don Quixote is crazy, but he continues to follow him. Even though we haven’t learned a lot about Sancho Panza, whats a definite is that they are best friends with Don Quixote. Like a terue friend, Im pretty sure that hes sticking around so Don Quixote does not seriously injure himself. D. The lines that I like in this part of the book are on page 1011 at the beginning of Chapter VIII. They say, “ Look there, friend Snacho Panza, where thirty or more monstrous giants rise up, all of whom I mean to engage in battle and slay, and with whose spoils we shall begin to make our fortunes… What we see there are not giants but windmills, and what seem to be their arms are the vanes that turned by the wind make millstone go.” I like these lines because they are truly hilarious to me. I found that they are really weird and they also show just how much Don Quixote has almost completely lost his mind.
I. I agree with richteri16 with how his transformation was too funny. I think he is a probably one of the funniest characters in general. This gave me sort of a “throwback” to when I was in middle and elementary school. This was really funny cause I kept on thinking about it.
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Post by Cameron Smith on Dec 30, 2013 14:52:14 GMT -5
D. One scene that I found hilarious was when Quexana says “He would put into practice all that he had read of as being the usual practices of knights-errant: righting every king of wrong, exposing himself to peril and danger from which he would emerge to reap eternal fame and glory.” I found this funny because this fully grown man who, in his fifties, decides one day to become a knight because he read books about it. He sounds like he is a little kid day dreaming about being a knight, which seems very funny to me since he is much older than that. How can he expect to be a knight if has only read books? Reading and doing are really different things and that is why I find this funny. F. I really have no idea why Sancho decides to work for Don Qixote. Clearly, he’s not thinking this through enough. Don Quixote takes him in as his squire for probably little to no pay to help him fulfill some fantasy of his. Sancho must really have nothing to live for. “It is easy to see,” Replied Don Quixote, “That you are not used to this business of adventures”. This line shows that Quixote is bossing Sancho around, and that Quixote is delusional. Sancho is clearly right about the windmills, but Don Quixote thinks they are giants. I’m mean seriously, who would want to be a squire for this guy? I. I agree with what Ian said in his letter E response. Sancho is a lazy person, who has no real concern with his surroundings. He is very sluggish about certain things, but in other situations he jumps up and is quickly absorbed in what is happening at that time.
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