|
|
Eveline
Jan 24, 2014 14:52:46 GMT -5
Post by Mr. Thomas on Jan 24, 2014 14:52:46 GMT -5
Ireland: "It's a death trap, it's a suicide rap..."
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Jan 26, 2014 14:38:59 GMT -5
Post by hankmichels on Jan 26, 2014 14:38:59 GMT -5
D. Knowing that the author lived in and hated Dublin, I feel like the purpous of this story was kind of to be miserable and have an anti Dublin thing mixed in. The story has a very gloomy feel, with the girl living with her abusive father. Throughout the story she is toying with fact that she has to leave home but part of her wants to stay, probably because of the fact that even though she hated her life, it is her home. Also in the end, she chooses not to go to Dublin, which is probably the Author working is some anti-dublin stuff. She chooses to stick with her horrible life, which is kind of sad.
F. I feel that even though her father is abusive, evaline has some kind of special connection to him. maybe it is just that when she was growing up she loved him, or she could even still love him now. If she truly dipised him and she couldn’t stand her home for one more second, I feel like she would have chosen to go to Dublin instead of stick around.
D. “Perhaps she would never see again those familiar objects from which she had never dreamed of being divided,” (Paragraph 2). This line does a really nice of job of showing how weird and strange it is for her to leave her home for good (even though it is weirdly worded). It demonstates that all her life she has been with these things and to leave forever is just crazy.
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Jan 26, 2014 19:50:08 GMT -5
Post by idelfonsoe16 on Jan 26, 2014 19:50:08 GMT -5
C. How come Eveline decides not to go with Frank at the last second? It seems as if she received some sort of reality check or something… How come she didn’t go with him? It was told that she was escaping despair and stuff like that. Does she like where she is? Is that why she didn’t go with Frank? Was she scared when she saw the soldiers? Was she scared of a better future?
I. I agree with Hank’s F response. Even though Eveline is dealing with an abusive father, she still has some sort of thing with him. Given as to why she thought of him getting old and missing her. I think it’s not about what the person did to you, but what the person did to impact your life in a positive way. Hey, the father doesn’t seem like he’s doing a good job, but he’s memorable for his good.
D. The dust is really interesting to me. I feel as if the dust is coating the memories, probably indicating how OLD the memories are, or how hidden they are under years of growth and things of that nature. Maybe the dust is a reminder to Eveline that the things left behind will be covered forever, and never clean. The dust plays some role in her decision when she’s at the dock with Frank. Maybe she thought of all the good times and memories in the place she lives in, that she decided she cannot leave it behind for her own life.
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Jan 26, 2014 21:02:34 GMT -5
Post by petergiglio on Jan 26, 2014 21:02:34 GMT -5
C. What confuses me is to why does writer talk up Frank so much but then at the end Eveline decides not to go with him? I mean if you ask me she seems like someone that is hard to handle and doesn't really have a grip as to what she wants and from who. Here this great guy is coming to give her a new life and take her away from her misery and boredom from the same old thing everyday and she turns him down at the end. Also the way she turned him down confused me.. Like she was so desperate for an escape from her life and when she is so close to one she can't do it. That is awful for him and her. I would hate myself after I did that. I would wonder every day for the rest of my life if I made the right decision or not. Also why didn't frank put up a better fight ? He kind of just screamed and let her go.
F. I feel like Eveline is wayyyyyyyy too forgiving of her father. He seems abusive and miserable to be around. Nonetheless he is her father and she still feels obligated to love him and try to remember the good things that he had done when she was younger. I feel like that is one reason as to why she might have stayed. Because she felt like he would do wrong to her family and home town, if she really hated him like she wanted to she wouldn't have stayed like she did. It was sort of like an epiphany for her in a way and realized what he was doing wasn't right for her even though I think It would have been.
I. I agree with hank for letter D. This story does have a really gloomy and dark feel to it, knowing that the author hated living in Dublin he kind of had a biased side to the whole think and may have perceived Dublin bad to the readers.
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Jan 26, 2014 23:51:45 GMT -5
Post by stephanoscocoves on Jan 26, 2014 23:51:45 GMT -5
C. I was confused when Eveline did not want to go with Frank. She waited for the last minute to say know. And she even wanted to leave her home in the first place and this was her chance. I missed opportunity by her that i this she will eventually regret in the future.
F. Even though her father is very absuive towards her she still is with him. I dont get it she wants to leave, and she has the opportunity to leave but she doesnt. I think its the idea of her father use to being that nice caring guy that makes her stay.
I. I agree with Hank's letter D. The story is really sad and depressing. It made me feel sad for her.
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Jan 27, 2014 1:00:15 GMT -5
Post by vazquezm16 on Jan 27, 2014 1:00:15 GMT -5
C. What really confused me was why Evelyn would not leave with Frank at the end of the story. The whole story is building up explaining all the problems and hardships she has and how Frank tells her of his adventures, especially in Buenos Ayres, and when we think she finally committed to leaving she does not. I think this could be for a couple of reasons. I think she may still feel responsible for the people that she is leaving even though she might not enjoy her current situation. I think that she could also be nervous about leaving and starting a new life in a new country that she has no experience with.
D. “She stood up in a sudden impulse of terror, Escape! She must escape! Frank would save her. He would giver her life, perhaps love, too. Bu she wanted to live. Why should she be unhappy? She had a right to happiness. Frank would take her in his arms, fold her in his arms, he would save her.” This quote is clearly showing how distraught she is with her current life and how she is aching for any sort of change for the better. Clearly she has thought out a plan on how to start this new life involving Frank but backs out at the last second. After seeing these thoughts from her I cannot see a very good reason for her wanting to stay behind.
G. If I was Frank I would be very upset at the sudden change of heart from Eveline. We had been planning this escape out for some time and she seem very involved in it. She even went all the way to the boat but decided not to get on at the last second. She either must have some very important commitments to keep or does not care about me as much as I thought she did.
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Jan 27, 2014 4:36:55 GMT -5
Post by jotirmoykundu on Jan 27, 2014 4:36:55 GMT -5
D. “She stood up in a sudden impulse of terror, Escape! She must escape! Frank would save her. He would giver her life, perhaps love, too. Bu she wanted to live. Why should she be unhappy? She had a right to happiness. Frank would take her in his arms, fold her in his arms, he would save her.” I like this quote because this clearly shows how much she dislikes her current life and how she is searching for any sort of change to live a new life. Shes of coarse thinking out a plan on how to start this new life involving Frank but backs out at the last second due to pre-jitters. After viewing the thoughts going through her head, there is honestly no good reason for her to stay behind.
F. Considering the fact that even though her father is abusive, Evaline has some kind of special connection and bond to him. I think it is just that when she was growing up she loved him and most likely still does. If she truly hated him and she couldn’t stand her home for one more second, I feel like she would have already decided and chose to leave to Dublin instead of sticking around.
I. I agree with Hank for his letter D responce. This story does have a really gloomy, dark, depressing feel to it. With the knowledge that the author hated living in Dublin, he kind of favored one side as opposed to the whole thing and may have perceived Dublin to be bad to the readers.
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Jan 27, 2014 18:34:10 GMT -5
Post by richteri16 on Jan 27, 2014 18:34:10 GMT -5
E. I found Eveline’s father quite upsetting and disturbing. Apparently after his wife’s death he became a drinker, however I may be mistaken and he always was one. The he has to have his family deal with the burden of dealing with him. He can’t even go out to get groceries. On top of that he is abusive as well (like it cant get any worse). He goes around and beats up his kids. When they would be playing he could chase them around with a stick. That is messed up.
F. Eveline has a really strange relationship with her father. On one hand she hates him. He is a drinker and abusive. On the other hand she has a love for him that still lives on deep within her. She wants to get away from him and just abandon him. Yet, she knows that he needs her. It is a really sad situation.
C. I am quite confused on why Eveline would not just go with Frank. All he siblings had already gone so its not like she is leaving everyone behind. Also she wants to escape her horrible life. She hates her job and her father (in a way). Frank is her true love after all. He was going to take her to sunny Buenos Aries to live happily ever after. This is the turning point in he life. Also, he mother told he on her deathbed to live your life. Don’t stay restrained to the obligations you think you have.
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Jan 27, 2014 23:21:30 GMT -5
Post by raypark on Jan 27, 2014 23:21:30 GMT -5
C. This story of Eveline was very emotional and great. I really enjoyed it. But there were some confusing parts to this story. Firstly is on why did she not go with Frank in the end of the story. In the end of the story, Eveline decides to ultimately stay in her hometown where she is suffering the most by her abusive father and low paying job. The complete enviornment is causing her suffering. So why does she not leave the place? Although she may be leaving her father and her brother behind in the town that she grew up in, she has the opportunity for a whole new life. She may actually get the happiness she ultimately desired. With that chance of being possible, why wont you take it? Another thing that was slightly confusing was the metaphors and side meanings in each line of the story. They were quite hard to fully grasp and analyze.
F. I agree with the other classmates in saying that Eveline's father was upsetting and disturbing. Eveline's relationship with her father absolutely horrible. She works very hard for the money that she earns and gives it all to her father to use for alchohal and etc. I find this very disrespectful to Eveline and her respect for her father. She isn't treating her father badly nor is she disrespecting him, yet she still recieves this attitude that she does not deserve.
I. I agree with Ian in saying that Eveline's father was a nasty one. I did not like him as a character at all.
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Mar 18, 2014 20:09:18 GMT -5
Post by rozzayhill007 on Mar 18, 2014 20:09:18 GMT -5
Jackson Hill
C. Something I am confused about is why she would leave her great home if she has a good job, a roof over her head, etc. If I had these type of conditions as a young adult I would try my hardest to stick things out and try to bear through the hatred and aggressiveness she lives with
D. A line that I like is, “perhaps she would never see again those familiar objects from which she had never dreamed of being divided.” I like this quote because it shows how hard it is for Eveline to leave her home because it would be disconnecting herself from all these objects that she grew up with.
I. I agree with Ian when he said that Eveline’s father is a very mean person, and he is also very violent towards Eveline, which is why I think makes her want to leave home in the first place. Because of the violence she is surrounded with she is torn between staying at her home or running away from what she has now
|
|
|
|
Eveline
Mar 28, 2014 15:59:14 GMT -5
Post by mikeloseto on Mar 28, 2014 15:59:14 GMT -5
C. Similar to what Ian said, I was also confused as to why she wouldn't leave with Frank. I mean, she has a terrible job, an aggressive father, and just a terrible life in general. All of her siblings are either dead or gone, or even both. She didn't have much incentive to stay so that's why I don't understand why she would stay there. She could being doing bigger and better things but she chooses not to and it's just kind of baffling.
I. I agree with what Ian said about Eveline's father. He seems like a brute and grumpy man. I didn't care for his character much at all. He seemed very aggressive and he also seemed to be a big part of Eveline's stress.
D. One quote I liked very much was: “She stood up in a sudden impulse of terror, Escape! She must escape! Frank would save her. He would giver her life, perhaps love, too. Bu she wanted to live. Why should she be unhappy? She had a right to happiness. Frank would take her in his arms, fold her in his arms, he would save her.” This showed ho much Eveline hated her life. It displayed the deep hatred for what she was going through and how she saw the opportunity to be saved. It was the one sliver of hope for her but, in the end, she didn't take the opportunity.
|
|
