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Post by nvanible on Oct 7, 2013 6:47:32 GMT -5
D. When Odysseus tells his crewmate, Eurylochus, “Eurylochus, stay right here, eating, drinking, safe by the black ship. I must be off. Necessity drives me on,” I thought he was being genuinely brave. I liked that he was showing to be brave and courageous, without seeing his arrogance. After having a huge portion of his crew taken away from him, he is determined to enter this treacherous place and get them back. In addition, under dire and or drastic circumstances, those type of situations usually forces Odysseus to reveal his true colors, a brave, honorable man who would do anything for his crew.
E. When Eurylochus explained to Odysseus his reasoning, “But I stayed behind---I sensed a trap. Suddenly all vanished---blotted out---not one face showed again, though I sat there keeping watch a good long time,” I liked how he was pretty much the most intelligent or most conscious crewmate of Odysseus. Unlike most of Odysseus’ crewmates, Eurylochus actually shows some intelligence by not mindlessly walking into the arms of a stranger. In addition, I liked how he was easily able to deduce that something was wrong, just from the minute he was there, sort of like an instinct. Although other members stayed, they were mainly following Eurylochus, who had the common sense not to trust everybody they meet, especially considering the adventures that they have been through so far.
I. When vazquezm16 was talking about how he felt about Odysseus' men were opening up the other sacks of loot, I thought that the answer was quite obvious. Although it may not have been right to do what they did, they were homesick, as well as tired, had limited "valuables" in a way. In addition, they are extremely weary from their past adventures as they seem to never get a rest.
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Post by jotirmoykundu on Oct 7, 2013 6:50:55 GMT -5
C. This part of the book gets me angry for a couple of reasons. Why is Odysseus’ crew dumb enough to open the bag of air which move them back when they were two inches away from their home? Were they going to steal the gold and silver that may have been inside the tightly sealed bag and why did Odysseus have to fall asleep at that exact moment when they were so close? Was that the beginning of Odysseus's lost at sea journey? And finally, was this plot all because of Polyphemus's prayer to Posiedon and was this all of Posiedon's plot to get back at Odysseus? D. I really like lines 22-38. The wind that Aeolus gives Odysseus gives reminds me of something from the SpongeBob Movie. In it, SpongeBob is given a bag of wind to push him home. While reading the directions to it aloud Patrick happens to follow along. Thus he winds up opening the bag of wind and leaves them stranded on the shore. Luckily, somebody is there to save them. I just find it very funny that the creators of SpongeBob decided to write this into the script because it so closely represents the Odyssey. I. I agree with Peter Giglio in the fact that Odysseus should just give up on life. He will not get anywhere and he is just running around in circles time after time not caring because he thinks Athena is always there for him. After this part of the story, Odysseus just wanders from different islands for 10 years.
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Post by mikeloseto on Oct 7, 2013 17:58:41 GMT -5
C. The part in the story that really aggravated me was the part when Odysseus' crew turned on him. They tore open the bag of wind that was given to Odysseus, thinking that it contained a fortune and they wanted it. By opening the bag of winds, they sent themselves all the way back to where they departed form: Aeolia. They came close enough to Ithaca where camp fires and people were able to be seen. The fact that they came this close made me question why Odysseus' crew would do this. Was there animosity towards Odysseus from his crew?
B. While reading, I noticed the same quote Michael Genco did and it was kind of funny. They're so used to barely escaping with their lives that it just becomes natural for them. Once again, they escaped but it came a little too close for comfort, as always.
I. I agree with Isaiah's argument about the relevance between the story we read and the scene from SpongeBob The Movie. The 2 situations are almost identical. Odysseus' crew betrays him and opens the bag of wind, sending them back to square 1. Patrick opens the bag of wind but doesn't do it correctly, therefore leaving him and SpongeBob stranded. It seems that the bag of wind is basically what the name says it is: a bag of emptiness. The bag of wind in both stories leads the characters no where, either leaving them stranded or back to where they started. It doesn't seem to prove that it is helpful but I thought that the comparison between SpongeBob and The Odyssey was kind of funny.
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Post by Cameron Smith on Nov 2, 2013 17:01:27 GMT -5
I. I also agree with Peter, Dakota, and Jackson that it was better to give up then to risk your life. It is obvious that he has no chance if he were to fight against the people so why try to act all strong by trying to defend against the people. While Odysseus does have a lot of pride for himself I would not put my life in danger over that I would just give in. B. I feel like this chapter is scattered. It includes all of these random events that could be a chapter on their own, but instead are shortened to a couple of pages. Halfway through the chapter there has already been three significant parts of the story explained. While I was reading the chapter title, I guessed that Cerce would take up the entire chapter: “The bewitching queen of aeaea” seemed very interesting but I got confused on the place because you usually would see a constant somewhere in there. F. I don’t really understand the relationship between Odysseus and King Aeolus. Aeolus gladly helped Odysseus the first time he came to him. I think Aeolus jumped to the conclusion when Odysseus came back a second time. He had heard Odysseus’s story once and knew about how the gods did not like him. I think he was too quick to judge when Odysseus came back. Odysseus returned because of his shipmates’ greed, not any wrath from the gods. Although I can see the Kings perspective, he did not even ask what had happened to him.
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